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Itâs day 3 of Permissionless! If you werenât there, no worries â todayâs 0xResearch is a recap of yesterdayâs panels.
â Donovan

Eulerswap volumes:
Source: Dune
EulerSwap is seeing a jump in volumes to about $78m in the last day. EulerSwap is Euler's AMM DEX that launched in early June on Ethereum and Unichain.
Why did a lending app launch a DEX?
Traditional AMMs typically require LPs to lock up funds that sit idle. The integration of lending and DEXs mitigates this capital inefficiency. EulerSwap routes LP capital into its lending markets, allowing the same capital to be simultaneously used for swapping, earning yield, or borrowing against.
It works in a similar design with Fluid, which weâve written about previously, though there are some distinct differences.
For one, EulerSwap comes with âjust-in-timeâ liquidity, a mechanism that identifies and batches pending swap transactions then injects concentrated liquidity into the relevant pool just before the trade executes for liquidity depth.
â Donovan Choy
Blockchain tech altering the global economy is no longer a distant hope. With the market projected to grow almost 600% over the next five years, itâs safe to say the blockchain revolution is well underway.
The latest report from Blockworks Research and OKX shows how blockchain is a new alternative, shifting the landscape for 4 major industries: financial services, technology, consumer goods, and entertainment.
These data-driven insights on the future of blockchain are a must-read for degens and empire builders alike.
Permissionless Day 2
If youâve been to crypto conferences, you know youâre not âsupposedâ to actually be at the panels. Theyâre recorded anyway, networking is priority. Opportunity costs abound!
To cope with my FOMO from Permissionless, I listened to every panel (almost) on Day 2. So ironically, I probably got more out of Permissionless from halfway around the world than most attendees.
Here are several choice quotes from Day 2 panels.
Konstantin Richter, founder of BlockDaemon, was asked how his investors would feel if he IPOâd onchain rather than the NYSE. He responded:
âIf my investors feel like the return they would get is a lot better, then I think itâs a fairly easy conversation in this regulatory landscape (assuming) we could get the right legal structures to avoid ending up in an orange jumpsuit.â
Wen World Liberty Financial token?
Zak Folkman, co-founder of World Liberty Financial, said: âI donât want to give away too much, but if you pay attention over the next couple weeks, everyone who wants to know âwen World Libertyâ is going to be very, very happy. Weâll leave it at that.â
Cryptic.
Brendan Eich, co-founder of Brave, on what he thinks of his Javascript creation: âJavascript's over 30 now, so it should get out of my basement. It's doing fine."
How should crypto purists feel about DeFi today integrating with centralized finance?
Hereâs Kain Warwickâs excellent answer, paraphrased from the DeFi Renaissance panel:
âIf you look at the history of fintechs over the last two decades, it's kind of disastrous because theyâre dealing with a ton of regulation and legacy systems that aren't interoperable. That's the big difference between DeFi and fintech: in fintech, if you want to do something, you got to go to a bank, beg for access to an API which you probably won't get. Whereas in DeFi, anyone can turn up and use it. A hybrid CeFi-DeFi system at least means that the rails are still interoperable in an environment where any new entrant can come in. The barriers to entry are lower. And that to me is the win. Even if we didn't get âpureâ DeFi replacing the world, I think weâve still won.â
A masterclass in marginal thinking if you ever find yourself reminiscing about the good olâ cypherpunk daysâŚ
What are the biggest impediments to adoption today?
Privy co-founder Henri Stern: âOnramping and moving from fiat to crypto remains the single biggest hurdle for adoption today.â
Whatâs the most important scaling decision Ethereum has to make in the next year?
Dan Robinson of Paradigm: âIncrease the gas limits on L1. Iâd love to see some progress on latency by then but Iâm doubtful that we will.â
Unfortunately, the percentage of Ethereum validators signaling for a higher gas limit has slowed in recent weeks. The last time gas limits were raised from 30m to 36m was in February 2025.
Source: gaslimit.pics
Why would apps not just go off and build on their own chain?
Max Resnick of Anza: âIf you want users, you should stay on Solana â thatâs where they are. If you want to bring your own users and have them use a product, frankly, I donât really know why youâre building on the blockchain.â
if you want users, you should stay on solana, that's where they are. If you want to bring your own users and have them use a product, like, frankly, I don't really know why you're building on the blockchain.
- max resnick
â Permissionless (@Permissionless)
8:27 PM ⢠Jun 25, 2025
Hereâs another spicy one from DBA fundâs Jon Charbonneau: âIf I had to take a bet, I would bet Base would not continue paying 10-15% (to Optimism) because I donât think theyâre getting sufficient value in return. My gut is the same for most rollups with their relationship to Ethereum. There just isnât pricing power there.â
How is AI being used for ZK?
Uma Roy from Succinct: âThere was a fun example of a big Hyperliquid whale with zero formal programming background that vibe-coded an SP1 application over the weekend. The app proved he owned addresses with ~25m of HYPE across accounts and bootstrapped an anonymous X account without revealing his addresses.â
Finally, some dunk tank action from the folks over at Blockworks Research.
We just dunked @defi_kay_ đ¤Ł
Courtesy of @_dshap!
Come dunk more @blockworksres employees!
â Marc Arjoon | Blockworks Research đŞ (@marcarjoon)
9:00 PM ⢠Jun 25, 2025
â Donovan Choy

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